RIPON DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT
COMMITTEE MINUTES – IRONGATE EAST AND WEST
Monday, January 14, 2008 at 2:00 P.M.
Attendees: Mayor Curt Pernice; Vice Mayor Chuck Winn; Council Member Red Nutt,
City Administrator Leon Compton, Planning Director Ken Zuidervaart, Building and
Public Works Director Ted Johnston, Police Chief Dick Bull, City Engineer Kevin
Werner, City Attorney Tom Terpstra, Mitzi Johnston, Staff
Others Present: No one from the public was present
L. Compton said that back when the Development Agreement was written for this
project he thought that the applicant might try to separate the East from the
West but the City had tied them together because of the storm drainage concerns.
L. Compton said that if the Council chooses to allow the separation that we need
to figure out how to deal with the storm drainage and the affordable housing
requirements. L. Compton said that this is a meeting to make sure all are aware
of the potential concerns.
C. Winn asked if L. Compton had spoken with the other signers on the DA and L.
Compton said that he has contacted Mike Steele who is representing Lionel Brazil
while he is in recovery; and Mr. Steele had said that he was not aware of this
request and that he would contact Braddock and Logan and then call Mr. Compton
back. L. Compton said that he has not yet heard back from Mr. Steele and so does
not know if they have spoken.
C. Winn asked if Mr. Steele had given any indication of if they were in
agreement or not and L. Compton replied that he is not sure and so he will try
to call Mr. Steele again.
R. Nutt asked which property Mr. Steele would be representing and L. Compton
said that it was for the Michael Barton property. L. Compton went on to explain
that Mr. Brazil and Mr. Steele were silent partners on this.
L. Compton explained that Braddock and Logan have the production portion of the
project or Irongate East and Mr. Steele and Mr. Brazil are silent partners for
Irongate West.
R. Nutt asked about the basin and how that would be handled.
L. Compton commented that the City needs to protect the long term viability of
the property.
The storm water for the site has to go to the basin and we need to expand the
basin. The plan was to use the dirt from the basin to bring up the Barton
property which is too low.
L. Compton said that if we let them off the hook; who is going to be on the hook
to expand the basin?
C. Pernice asked what if they want to sever their ties and not do the other part
of Irongate. Are we O.K. with this?
C. Winn said that the City Council voted in good faith because the projects were
tied together. There are dedicated acres to serve the storm drainage issues.
Whatever they are obligated under the DA to do, they are required to do. If not
willing, he doesn’t see a reason to change it. Either they do all they said that
they would do absent the custom lots and bring in the other partners on this to
agree or we don’t approve. It is not the City’s obligation to bail the developer
out.
C. Pernice asked about them dedicating the land and K. Zuidervaart explained
that they wish to set up a BA district where they would get paid back.
C. Pernice asked if the land is our land would it fall into a prevailing wage
issue. T. Terpstra said that it would increase the risk.
L. Compton said if the City Council were to take a hard stand and they say they
are not going to do the rest of the project, we could end up with half of a
developed subdivision and could have the residents coming to the City Council
meetings wanting to know why we are not working with them.
K. Zuidervaart said that if we dig the basin, we would need to put the dirt
somewhere. Would it be O.K. to have the dirt sitting somewhere; possibly on the
Barton property?
C. Winn said that if they sell the West side to another developer; do they
inherit the Development Agreement intact? T. Terpstra said that the DA goes with
the land. The original can’t vacate the DA.
L. Compton said that all parties that signed the DA would have to be agreeable
to this.
C. Winn said that who agrees to do what should be between the existing developer
and purchaser and let them hash it out. C. Winn said that his concern is that we
are only hearing from one of the parties and he would prefer that they all come
in together to discuss.
T. Terpstra commented that at today’s market it doesn’t make sense to have two
separate projects linked.
L. Compton commented that they were linked because the City wanted to have
custom lots for the small developers. He asked what is the benefit for the City
to let them out of this agreement..
T. Terpstra said that there is currently a half finished subdivision and we
could be facing those concerns of it not being completed. If it doesn’t hurt the
City but helps the residents then he thinks it should be o.k. but he is in
agreement with C. Winn that we need both sides in on this.
C. Winn asked what happened with K& B Homes when they went away with a half
finished project. C. Pernice said that when the new developer came in they had
to comply with the new standards and had to widen the streets.
C. Winn said that he understands about the current residents and asked who is
liable for that if the developer doesn’t finish. He asked if they have some
recourse against the developer they can take.
T. Terpstra said that it is a question of how involved that neighborhood could
get.
C. Pernice said that he needs to hear from all parties involved. How much
exposure do we want as a City?
C. Winn said that this is predicated on an agreement that the City and Developer
both signed and any changes would have to be mitigated so we don’t lose any
grounds or quality. It needs to be in the best interest of the residents.
L. Compton suggested that maybe we have them provide custom lots along S.
Mohler.
C. Pernice asked if each side had the right amount of affordable units and K.
Zuidervaart replied that they do.
L. Compton said that if the dirt doesn’t go over to Irongate West, the basin may
have to be deeper.
K. Zuidervaart said that the current basin is not big enough to handle the
project.
Request letter to City Council. If want to go forward; all parties would have to
come before the Development Agreement Committee to agree. R. Nutt said that he
was in agreement that all parties should be in attendance.
The matter will be placed on the first meeting in February.
There being no further discussion, the meeting was adjourned at 2:30 p.m.
Submitted by: Mitzi Johnston